EdwardCurrent asked:
It’s the moment of judgment for one fool who says there is no God. Christians, get ready to laugh as he learns his eternal fate!
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funny stuff
would a benevolent god send good people to hell if they didn’t believe in him.
birrech,
All of that is to say nothing of all the disagreement and contradiction in the gospels. They can’t agree on when Jesus was crucified, when he was born, where he was after birth, what he said during the crucifixion, what was written on his cross, whether or not he carried it himself, who found the open tomb, who they found in the tomb, what they did or said or even what a supposed Roman centurion remarked during the proceedings. They’re just stories made up to Christian tradition.
birrech,
What do you mean the additions can’t be substantiated? There exists over 5,700 NT manuscripts in various archives around the world. They’re thoroughly photographed and cataloged. There’s no controversy concerning what they do or don’t say. And the oldest copies don’t have the parts I’ve mentioned. That IS substantiation. Do you think paleographers are idiots? They can take a small sample of a single page and tell you (in many cases), the length of the full document having never seen it
birrech,
And I’m sorry but you’re simply wrong about your comment concerning Luke and Matthew copying from Mark. It’s very significant and substantially reduces any credibility to the idea that they were first-hand accounts. If they saw it themselves, they would have no need to copy from someone else. And the dates alone help to destroy all credibility. You watch a man walk on water, raise the dead and resurrect after crucifixion… and you don’t think to write it down for over 60-years?
ha! god doesnt make bad things to happen, all things happen to a reason to test you for the real deal; heaven or hell
birrech,
You don’t know with absolute certainty who the authors were for the vast majority of Biblical texts. Greek was not the language of the day for Jews. One of the embellishments you speak of is the supposed virgin birth of Jesus. It’s not a minor matter, nor is Mark knowing nothing about a resurrection or ascension, or Matthew not actually mentioning a virgin birth, or John not ever claiming Jesus appeared before his disciples after the supposed resurrection – all additions by scribes.
That was the most random shit ever
Really, that mantra does not help and it’s only biblical for the elect. Do you know who the elect are? If not, please stop helping out the other side with your simplistic, quaint and annoying mantra. It gives thinking christians a bad name. Better to use reason.
Noah’s Ark: the story of an often naked & drunk, 600 year old, gazillion ton, wooden boat building senior citizen, who offered an all expenses paid world cruise for 40+ million species of plant, animal/insect & bacteria.
i saw that youtube video 2…..
Jesus Loves You!!!
He is both loving and feared (fearful). Paul says “behold, the kindness and severity of God”. Much of Christianity is holding ideas in tention or balance.
These “additions” you speak of cannot be substantiated. At least not in the volume you suggest. Some areas of NT are not in ALL the earliest manuscripts. And one or two places have embelishments – but we know what those are and most bibles point it out with brackets. Taking out these few spots, you are left w/a highly reliable bible – from the standpoint of staying true to the original writing.
We dont know with absoloute certainty Mark was the author of Mark. Probably was. Please give me the Sabbath purchase ref you speak of. Also 10 commandments. Writing in greek was the language of the day. it was the roman empire, having dominated the greeks. All the nt was written in greek. Dont get your point here.
Yes Mathew and Luke probably use Mark but that discredits nothing.
Christianity:
The belief that some Cosmic Jewish Zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a ribbed-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat out of a magical tree……
Makes perfect sense. xD
I’m an open agnostic (and i think, agnosticism is misunderstood in many ways as Christianity also is) but This video really fails me… and it even let me realize that (probably) MOST OF The Christians show a “muSt-be-fearing-God” not the one i expected : a “loving-ONE”….
:(
birrech,
Sorry, I neglected to mention that “p52″, being the oldest known NT manuscript (and only a scrap at that), is dated to around 125CE which was the point I started to make.
birrech,
I didn’t say the OT books were unchanged. But I don’t know of specific alterations which exist in them so it would be inappropriate of me to speak of changes, since I can’t present any specific examples.
The NT is a different story with Mark 16:8-20, the first two chapters of Matthew and the last chapter of John all being later additions (to name a few). Even the parable of Jesus and the adulteress is the work of scribes making additions while copying manuscripts.
birrech,
(cont) Matthew corrects some of Mark’s blunders concerning Jewish customs. But since Jesus was a Jew, there’s no credible claim that the author of Mark knew him. Luke also copies “Mark” word-for-word but uses only 54% of the text, along with verses from the “Q” and information from “The Antiquity of the Jews”, written in 93CE by Josephus. John is perhaps the most credible but scholars consider it a pseudepigraphic writing and some claim John was killed 50-years before it was written.
birrech,
The old NT manuscript discovered is known as “p52″, being the 52nd cataloged and written on papyrus. It is but 5 verses from John. There is nothing older.
If Mark had known Jesus, he would have known Jewish traditions and laws. Instead, he offers Jews making purchases on the Sabbath, misquotes the 10 Commandments, and writes in Greek, not Hebrew. The text was actually written around 60-80CE by a Roman convert to Christianity. “Matthew” uses 92% of the text in Mark but corrects errors..
“the world” in scripture can mean either ; 1. all people everywhere, 2. a group of people (as acts 17:6), 3. the world system, 4. the geographic earth. Mostly “world” does not mean “all people everywhere” but folks poor or force that meaning into 3:16. Why?
In the very verse you quote, Jesus excludes “the righteous”.
GOD IS JUST BUT MERCIFUL:)
BIRRECH YOUR TOTALLY RIGHT.
HANDRABABY07: Thats “God is love” just to be precise. He is also just and must punish sin, either in you or in His son.